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		<title>By: C. C. Hsieh</title>
		<link>http://thehullabaloo.com/2009/11/20/toga-hosts-chinataiwawn-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>C. C. Hsieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very sorry for my poor typing job.  &quot;Alied power&quot; should read &quot;allied powers.&quot;  &quot;Taiwan Relations Acts&quot; should read &quot;Taiwan Relations Act.&quot;  &quot;A total wyth&quot; should read &quot;a total myth.&quot;

The TOGA had the goodwill to get the two students, one from Taiwan and the other from China, to join the panel.  However, due to certain degree of &quot;pressure&quot; back home they might not be able to talk freely on the subject.   The Chinese student must be very ignorant about &quot;real&quot; Taiwan.  

The PRC government has been very deceiving to the Chinese people.  For example, in both the joint Communique of December 15, 1978, and the US-China Communique on Taiwan of August 17, 1982,  the US &quot;recognized&quot; PRC as the sole legal government of China and &quot;acknowledged&quot;  the Chinese position that there is one China and Taiwan is a part of China.  But the PRC government informed the matter to its people by consistently replacing the word &quot;acknowledged&quot; with &quot;recognized.&quot;   (See Renmin Ribao or Peoples Daily of 12/17/1978 and 8/18/1982.)  The consequence:  1) Misled the people;  2) Received high respect from the people; and 3) Incited the people to hate the US (for selling arms to Taiwan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sorry for my poor typing job.  &#8220;Alied power&#8221; should read &#8220;allied powers.&#8221;  &#8220;Taiwan Relations Acts&#8221; should read &#8220;Taiwan Relations Act.&#8221;  &#8220;A total wyth&#8221; should read &#8220;a total&nbsp;myth.&#8221;</p>
<p>The <span class="caps">TOGA</span> had the goodwill to get the two students, one from Taiwan and the other from China, to join the panel.  However, due to certain degree of &#8220;pressure&#8221; back home they might not be able to talk freely on the subject.   The Chinese student must be very ignorant about &#8220;real&#8221;&nbsp;Taiwan.  </p>
<p>The <span class="caps">PRC</span> government has been very deceiving to the Chinese people.  For example, in both the joint Communique of December 15, 1978, and the <span class="caps">US</span>-China Communique on Taiwan of August 17, 1982,  the <span class="caps">US</span> &#8220;recognized&#8221; <span class="caps">PRC</span> as the sole legal government of China and &#8220;acknowledged&#8221;  the Chinese position that there is one China and Taiwan is a part of China.  But the <span class="caps">PRC</span> government informed the matter to its people by consistently replacing the word &#8220;acknowledged&#8221; with &#8220;recognized.&#8221;   (See Renmin Ribao or Peoples Daily of 12/17/1978 and 8/18/1982.)  The consequence:  1) Misled the people;  2) Received high respect from the people; and 3) Incited the people to hate the <span class="caps">US</span> (for selling arms to&nbsp;Taiwan).</p>
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		<title>By: C. C. Hsieh</title>
		<link>http://thehullabaloo.com/2009/11/20/toga-hosts-chinataiwawn-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-1582</link>
		<dc:creator>C. C. Hsieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conflict between Taiwan and China is an excellent example of one type of international justice problems in modern time.  The center of the conflict is Chinese imperialism and aggression.  It is a shame of China.  It is also a shame of the United Nations.

Taiwan was legally a part of Japan before April 28, 1952, when the Peace Treaty with Japan became effective.

According to the UN Charter of June 1945, any territory separated from a defeated nation in WWII should be turned to the UN for a trusteeship and then get its &#039;future&#039; determined by a plebiscite.  Japan was defeated in WWII.  Therefore, Taiwan should be taken care of by the UN and get her &#039;future&#039; determined by the Taiwanese themselves.  It has never happened as simple as that.

In August 1945, after Japan surrendered to the alied power, General MacArthur ordered Chiang Kai-shek&#039;s Chinese government to occupy Taiwan.  In February 1947, the Taiwanese uprising (or &quot;228 Incident&quot;) occured.  Chiang took the opportunity to kill and arrest all the Taiwanese leaders.  In May 1949, Chiang ordered a martial law (lifted in 1987) for Taiwan.  In December he fled to Taiwan, which was not a part of China, and set up his exiled &quot;Republic of China&quot; (ROC). 

Since 1945, Taiwanese have received Chinese education with all kinds of lies, cheats and threats.  Chiang&#039;s KMT party is the richest political party in the world.  They have built a complete underground network of party agents for watching the people and buying and controling votes in elections.  The people outside of Taiwan have been very confused about Taiwan.  The Taiwanese themselves are confused as well.  

Today, Taiwanese need to find out what Taiwan really is by self education, not from textbooks. 

On October 13, 1952, Chiang made the announcement in his KMT&#039;s 7th Conference that the Republic of China was &quot;gone.&quot;  He said, &quot;As long as we have Taiwan, the (Chinese) Communists are powerless on me.&quot;   His says were clearly based on the fact that Taiwan was legally not a part of China, ROC or PRC.  The same fact implys that the &quot;Taiwan Relations Acts&quot; are appropriate.  The same fact implys that the claim on Taiwan by Beijing is a total wyth.

After 60 years in existence, the UN has become so powerful that it can handle neither the nuclear arms disputes nor the pirates attacks.   Taiwanese can not count on the UN.  Taiwanese need to work harder and harder for their own future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conflict between Taiwan and China is an excellent example of one type of international justice problems in modern time.  The center of the conflict is Chinese imperialism and aggression.  It is a shame of China.  It is also a shame of the United&nbsp;Nations.</p>
<p>Taiwan was legally a part of Japan before April 28, 1952, when the Peace Treaty with Japan became&nbsp;effective.</p>
<p>According to the <span class="caps">UN</span> Charter of June 1945, any territory separated from a defeated nation in <span class="caps">WWII</span> should be turned to the <span class="caps">UN</span> for a trusteeship and then get its &#8216;future&#8217; determined by a plebiscite.  Japan was defeated in <span class="caps">WWII</span>.  Therefore, Taiwan should be taken care of by the <span class="caps">UN</span> and get her &#8216;future&#8217; determined by the Taiwanese themselves.  It has never happened as simple as&nbsp;that.</p>
<p>In August 1945, after Japan surrendered to the alied power, General MacArthur ordered Chiang Kai-shek&#8217;s Chinese government to occupy Taiwan.  In February 1947, the Taiwanese uprising (or &#8220;228 Incident&#8221;) occured.  Chiang took the opportunity to kill and arrest all the Taiwanese leaders.  In May 1949, Chiang ordered a martial law (lifted in 1987) for Taiwan.  In December he fled to Taiwan, which was not a part of China, and set up his exiled &#8220;Republic of China&#8221;&nbsp;(<span class="caps">ROC</span>). </p>
<p>Since 1945, Taiwanese have received Chinese education with all kinds of lies, cheats and threats.  Chiang&#8217;s <span class="caps">KMT</span> party is the richest political party in the world.  They have built a complete underground network of party agents for watching the people and buying and controling votes in elections.  The people outside of Taiwan have been very confused about Taiwan.  The Taiwanese themselves are confused as&nbsp;well.  </p>
<p>Today, Taiwanese need to find out what Taiwan really is by self education, not from&nbsp;textbooks. </p>
<p>On October 13, 1952, Chiang made the announcement in his <span class="caps">KMT</span>&#8217;s 7th Conference that the Republic of China was &#8220;gone.&#8221;  He said, &#8220;As long as we have Taiwan, the (Chinese) Communists are powerless on me.&#8221;   His says were clearly based on the fact that Taiwan was legally not a part of China, <span class="caps">ROC</span> or <span class="caps">PRC</span>.  The same fact implys that the &#8220;Taiwan Relations Acts&#8221; are appropriate.  The same fact implys that the claim on Taiwan by Beijing is a total&nbsp;wyth.</p>
<p>After 60 years in existence, the <span class="caps">UN</span> has become so powerful that it can handle neither the nuclear arms disputes nor the pirates attacks.   Taiwanese can not count on the <span class="caps">UN</span>.  Taiwanese need to work harder and harder for their own&nbsp;future.</p>
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